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'll see a cut to health care. the -- plan to actually put the aca into place simply cannot go through with this plan. so we're talking about real cuts to folks' real lives. that's an important point of what's going on. >> fair enough. really more down the road. you heard ben jealous worry about that. let me just ask you -- >> the aca is going to raise health care costs monumentally. >> that's not a budget -- >> yes it is. >> reduce costs for consumers and cut the budget deficit by 1 $180 billion. what's the base of your projection? you're pulling it out of the air. >> no, i'm not. the congressional budget office keeps making costs increase from what they originally projected. now that various individual plans and firms are costing out what they're going to have to do, you're saying far more firms are going to be not covering people. this plan was conceived in a way that didn't understand the economic consequences. >> just to the clarify, the aca, obama care. >> yes. the affordable care act. >> basically protects -- >> anything but protect patients or be affordable. it is orwellian. >
recovery. in terms of health care costs related to the aca, while most business leaders that we have spoken to have said is they understand we needed to do something. small-business owners are impacted disproportionately by rising health-care costs. the current health c arpl work for them less well thanlarg companies because they don't have buying power. if you look at some of the reforms, you see a number of efforts to try to reduce costs for small businesses to, like creating exchanges, for example. small in 2011, small businesses paid 25% more for insurance than large companies. the exchange is meant to help small business. you are right. with the new regulations set to take effect in a couple of years, it is another reason to be careful and protect small businesses from tax increases. what the obama people will tell you is that they have cut taxes for small business 17 times and 90% of the small businesses in america would not be effected by higher individual taxes. host: here is "the miami herald" this morning. pennsylvania. independent caller. caller: he said it earlier when they go t
intermediate deficit problem and implementation of the cost saving measures strengthened over time in the aca will deal with their long-term health care problem. so we are not that far away and we have other tremendous strengths in our country that would allow us to make the kind of investment to transform the economy, to do with the reality of stagnant wages and a sense of diminished opportunities. we have strengths. we can do it. we need the public to rain and behavior that's destructive and we need political leaders to act forcefully. given enough to bipartisan commissions and searched enough for bipartisan consensus. for sensible hard all politics along these lines. >> norm, i particularly cutie take the money question. a couple political had a great shared that showed that party polarization in congress was directly correlated with increasing concentrations of wealth from increasing equality went together artisan polarization. and the money question you can handle so many different ways. i'm really concerned about it posed citizens united system with a federal election commission that's
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